hoser,
Write a very strongly worded letter to WTBTS telling them that your congregation is wonderful and loving and doesn't need the intrusion of this ex-bethelite!
Then sign the letter with the name "brother neo nazi service overseer"
Billy the Ex-Bethelite
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I think a troubleshooter has been assigned to our congregation
by hoser inthis new couple moved in a couple weeks ago.
special/regular pioneers, he's an elder from bethel.
i think he might have been a co at one time.
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exJW Psychology 101--Keeping Your Cool While Fading
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inin an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, i'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.. .
personally, i don't have much of a temper.
what i do have, i've learned to control.
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In an effort to get some help and hopefully help others, I'd like to start this thread about psychology, specifically starting with the subject of anger management.
Personally, I don't have much of a temper. What I do have, I've learned to control. I think I got that from my father's parents. Particularly looking back at my experiences in bethel, I learned how to keep my cool, often to my advantage. The organization has no shortage of hotheads, and I was careful about covering my ass and keeping my cool. There was more than once that I got chewed out in an email (with a long list of people in the CC) or in a loud voice (often in front of others). I didn't lash back. Instead, I would respond carefully and apologetically, making the other person look like the unchristian hotheads that they were. I had to bite my tongue pretty hard sometimes, but that was all part of the plan. After things cooled, I'd then come back with my defense before everyone involved with my proof of what I'd been told or not told earlier. Sometimes it was hard to resist the urge to fly off the handle in a fit of justified rage, but I found even more satisfaction at learning how to make those idiots feel small and foolish for their temper-tantrums.
Enough about bethel crap, I'll move forward to more recent history. My coolheadedness has certainly helped with my fade. JWs love to claim how exJW "apostates" are so very angry all the time about everything. As I learned more of TTATT, I increasingly felt the urge to get angry and speak my mind, but I was determined that the label "angry apostate" would never be stuck onto me. Notably, in the meeting where I was removed as an elder, I would have good reason to get mad for the dumb sh!t that those elders were saying, but I didn't. I let them be the fools that they are. Then I walked away and could truthfully say: "I learned that Br. X certainly has a temper!" "Br. Y certainly can't keep his story straight if you ask him any questions." "Br. Z promptly reported to his non-elder friends what transpired, so why are you pretending that anything in there is confidential?" And in later meetings with some of the elders and with COs, I completely kept my cool. I actually think that it was very disarming for them that they couldn't come away saying that I was angry or bitter. And plenty in the congregation knew exactly what was going on and got angry at what jerks the body of elders were.
Additionally, in my dealings with my parents, I've made it clear that I'm not an uncontrollable or unreasonable hothead. Perhaps it's part of our family dynamics that whoever raises their voice in a disagreement is the loser. And when somebody starts getting loud and showing a temper, they're going to hear something like, "Well, if you are going to get loud and angry, we'd better just end this conversation before you have a stroke or seizure or something." I've been very careful to never act angry toward my parents, or interrupt them while they're talking, or even try to put them "on the spot" in discussions. By keeping the conversation civil, I've found that I've gotten them to agree with me on a few important points, while we still differ on others. But most importantly, the communication lines are still open. Actually, we talk very little about religion, except for talking about what's going on with whom. Dad and I are more likely to talk about religion, but it's never an argument. It's actually very interesting to get his perspective on things.
One of the things I think helps me is that in our conversations I keep "the organization" as an outside third person. It's certainly not easy, since JWs are so heavily programmed to be mindless drones with their full identities connected to the "Mother bOrg". Even though I am tempted to rant and rave in anger over WT policies, teaching, and practices, I avoid the impression of anger toward WT, it's much more about frustration, I suppose. And as I think about it, I would say that rather than showing anger, I just say something like, "It makes me angry when I think that an elder who hears about a child being raped would call the Legal Department at Patterson rather than call the police ASAP." When I say things like that, it makes my parents angry too... at Watchtower. And that is one of the things that my parents and I agree upon.
So, that's my thoughts on how keeping control of my anger has helped my fade and helped me keep communication going with my parents. It looks like I might have some challenging conversations coming up this summer, so I'm trying to maintain "keeping my cool" as a priority.
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Anthony Morris The 3rd Talks About Human Hot Dogs At Armageddon, There Will Be No Picnic For Survivors
by frankiespeakin inwatch out for armageddon it is going to be numbing to human sensibilities:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq4iqrklm.
i guess he's thinkin jehovah's gonna roast them like a hot dogs burned to a charred ruination over a fire.
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The really sick underlying message is that the only way anyone will be able to prevent themselves from being like roasted hotdogs or deer mangled alongside the road is that they must exercise faith in WT and it's Governing Body... especially him.
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I think a troubleshooter has been assigned to our congregation
by hoser inthis new couple moved in a couple weeks ago.
special/regular pioneers, he's an elder from bethel.
i think he might have been a co at one time.
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I'd ask the elders which of them this dude is here to remove.
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I went to the DC!!!!
by DATA-DOG init sucked.
the co said that the term, " the truth " means " truthful understanding of the scriptures.
" he also said that the truth does not change.
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So in the drama, how many JW virgins have to go sleep with the king in order to lift the ban?
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Another Newbie?
by DJS ini guess i'm a newbie.
i've been reading (lurking) for a looooonnnnnggggg time, but have finally joined and this is my first post.
my story is of course very similar to all the others.
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Welcome!
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Subtle wording in today's study article (3/15/13 WT)
by leaving_quietly inw13 3/15 p. 28 par.
"first, we must proclaim that name to others, recognizing that only those who 'call on the name of jehovah will be saved.
' (rom.
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"the 2 commandments that jesus itterated come into play , love jehovah your GOD with all you have and your neighbor as yourself ."
If those commandments mean that they love the Governing Body with all they have and pray for their neighbors to get slaughtered by rocks falling from the sky, JWs have that covered!
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College Update
by noni1974 inso, in 2010 i recived my ged with the goal of going to college and getting a degree.
in the mean time i have been an active member of my schools honors program and have finished all of the requirements for graduation from the honors program.
they were 15 credit hours of honors classes, 12 hours of volunteer work in my community, and 16 hours of cultural activites offered by the honors program.
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Good for you, Noni!
And you do want the Associate in Science degree. My DARS report shows that there are plenty of Bachelor of Arts degrees that I already qualify to receive, but none of them are engineering degrees.
The change of campus is a great way to meet more people. Social media is an easy way to keep in touch with all the friends that you've made... and a great way to benefit from doing the opposite of WT's instructions. And as long as you're disobeying WT by getting "higher education" and "social networking", I'd also recommend wearing "worldy T-shirts with logos" from the schools you've attended. I've found that a shirt can start some interesting conversations with strangers.
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Are you really an Apostate, according to the WT ?
by Phizzy inperusing the coverage of the 2013 dc spewings about apostates, the wt claims that apostates are "liars" and speak "twisted things".
this is their definition of apostates.. now, the reality is that sites such as paul's excellent jwfacts.com, books like coc and isocf, by ray franz, the works of olaf jonsson, penton and others, all write what is true !.
we are careful on here to present that which is true, at least i hope we are !.
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If a child eats a cupcake that happens to be leftover from a Birthday Party, that child is an apostate!
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Are you really an Apostate, according to the WT ?
by Phizzy inperusing the coverage of the 2013 dc spewings about apostates, the wt claims that apostates are "liars" and speak "twisted things".
this is their definition of apostates.. now, the reality is that sites such as paul's excellent jwfacts.com, books like coc and isocf, by ray franz, the works of olaf jonsson, penton and others, all write what is true !.
we are careful on here to present that which is true, at least i hope we are !.
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If a library has an old copy of the blue Truth book explaining that it's God's promise that Armageddon will come within a 70-year generation of 1914, that library is apostate!